EDIT (09/03/2014): New Details / Tips for Securing and AC vs. DC Lamp control there in a new post
EDIT (30.12.2013) : Have a few more details on the demand of Markus added
We did not have to think twice when choosing the right lighting decency. We opted for LEDs and try now possible for all purposes a corresponding (affordable) solution to find with LEDs. Although it is not noted in the lamp business, the large LED invasion, but everything on the internet and so many options available. Specifically, the power-saving dimmable lamps have done to us. Together with the Loxone DMX control you get an inexpensive central light, color and dimming specifically for LED bulbs.
Used lamps or fully integrated LED lamps:
- Ceiling Spots: Since we will be using two different ceiling spots and these different lamp base have (GU 5.3 and AR111), we need two different LED lights.Both models have enough reserves with 10W power and will be probably operated mainly in the dimmed state.
- Philips 10W GU 5.3, Warm White / 2700K, 36 °, replacement for 50W halogen (MASTER LEDspotLV D 10-50W MR16 WW 36D)Caution : This model has a small fan and should therefore not be used for example in the bedroom. Alternative(something darker): new 7W model without fan (Philips MASTER LED 7-50W 2700K MR16 36D DIM)
- Philips AR111 10W, Warm-Weiß/2700K, 40°, Ersatz für 50W Halogen (MASTER LEDspotLV AR111 D 10-50W WW 40D)
- ceiling lights
- Solectric 24V Slim LED Panel (various sizes)
- Heitronic LED panel for outdoor use
- indirect (effect) lighting
- various 24V LED Strip (Loxone and ebork, manufacturer unknown)
Here again, the two ceiling spots in action:
The larger models (picture above) should be used in the kitchen and in the living area. This can be also placed rotated or angled. Only the area after the gap is in the ceiling, the rest-wall and thus visible. Since ours are significantly more expensive than the following, we will not obstruct these throughout the house.
The smaller spots (image below) are used in the hallway, bathroom and dressing. These have the light slightly behind so that you can see the individual LEDs are not directly or it is not quite so blinded. Moreover, these are up to the narrow edge completely in the ceiling.
Both models require a depth of 10cm.
On the Delta Light page you can have a look at some examples of spots to make previously a picture of it.
A favorable Store for Delta Light or generally spots and lamps, incidentallywww.dmlights.de . From a certain number you can also ask for an individual offer.
For other purposes, we have not ordered all lights. However, we could, for example atSolectric (retail shop: Alterrax.de ) locally to watch once the LED ceiling panels in different shades (cold, neutral and warm white) and sizes. For the study we will probably use a large neutral white panel. For the smaller bathroom and toilet each a small panel in neutral or warm white. All panels are very well dimmable with dimmers used. They can also be easily installed on a magnetic mounting system.
DMX (LED CONTROLLER AND DIMMER)
Why DMX? DMX actually comes out of the stage but it is a cheap alternative for conventional dimmers or dimming actuators are, especially in the low-voltage LED range (12V / 24V). Conventional dimmers have to expect prices to 50-100 euros per lamp or light district. With DMX you can already get a LED dimming actuator for 10 Euro per channel.With Loxone only initial one-time cost of a DMX extension to come (266 Euro).
Pro color you need a free DMX channel. That is for White Stripes or a circle of light with several white spots you need a channel to control. In RGB there are then 3 channels, so you can control each color individually. Meanwhile, there are also RGBW Stripes, which additionally have Warm white LEDs and thus need 4 channels.
|OVERVIEW OF REQUIRED US DMX CHANNELS|
|RGB LED Stripe||3||9|
|(Hot) and White LED Stripe||3||3|
|LED ceiling spotlights||39||12 (Lichtkreise)|
|LED Treppenspots||4||2 (Lichtkreise)|
|LED ceiling panel / lamp||4||4|
The thus necessary 30 DMX channels, we will provide the following centrally installed DMX dimmers:
- 3x DMX4ALL X9 (each 9 channels)
- 2x Loxone DMX PWM dimmers (each 3 channels)
This 3 channels remain for future applications.
When choosing the DMX PWM dimmer you also have to load the maximum connectable eighth. The Loxone PWM dimmers, these are 50W (at 24V) or 2.1 A per channel. The DMX4ALL dimmer can control 240W (24V) and load 10A per channel contrast. Mostly we will control LED lighting circuits with up to 6 lamps. However, this need at 100% light output together to 6A and thus too much for the Loxone DMX dimmer. The only possibility would be there to distribute to multiple channels or circles of light the lamps.But this increases the number of channels required and hence the cost.
Typically, DMX dimmer and thus the power supplies should be installed near the lamps.However, we have for the dimmer and power supplies decided centrally in the control cabinet to obstruct. This makes a possibly times necessary replacement much easier and you can quickly something to the wiring change / check. However, you have to expect (> 10m) with EMC burden of PWM dimming at longer distances between lamps and PWM dimming. However, no cases in the hardware used are known to me.
Once everything has been installed, we will again report on the final score.
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